Comments for http://laeger.wordpress.com Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:18:13 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Intimacy issues (Part 1) by Rose http://laeger.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/intimacy-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Rose Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:18:13 +0000 http://laeger.wordpress.com/?p=421#comment-260 I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that those who complain about "shallow" worship songs have intimacy issues. Everyone has issue. Those who complain, I believe, lack maturity. And I think we have to be patient with them as they hopefully grow up. I feel sorry for the ones that who never seem to get beyond criticizing, those who don't ask the question, "Why did the songwriter use that phrase?" To jump to the conclusion that some of the words have come into a song without much thought is just immature and shortsighted. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that those who complain about “shallow” worship songs have intimacy issues. Everyone has issue. Those who complain, I believe, lack maturity. And I think we have to be patient with them as they hopefully grow up. I feel sorry for the ones that who never seem to get beyond criticizing, those who don’t ask the question, “Why did the songwriter use that phrase?” To jump to the conclusion that some of the words have come into a song without much thought is just immature and shortsighted.

]]> Comment on Intimacy issues (Part 1) by Steve http://laeger.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/intimacy-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-259 Steve Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:17:42 +0000 http://laeger.wordpress.com/?p=421#comment-259 Hey just found your post. I like what you ahve to say on this issue, especially the IN Jesus part. If you pay attention when reading Paul's letters, that's really what he was all about. He uses the phrase "In Christ" or some similar construct dozens of times, yet we usually just pass over those to get to the more practical material. The truth is the more I find myself joined with Christ, the less the issues like intimacy (too much or too little) seem to matter. I'll admit that I'm more of a touchy feely guy when it comes to worship songs, but I also don't feel a deep emotional need for those types of songs to be present every time I worship. Now I certainly don't have this all figured out, and I am certainly not a model of how we should all worship (I'm still a sinner and still broken) but I think some of the debates over intimacy/masculinity, service/singing, charasmatic/reverent are missing the point. The real point is to know Jesus, experience Jesus, become one with Jesus and one another as he prayed in John 17. If we start there I think we'll find our way in the end. Excellent post. Keep up the good work. :-) Hey just found your post. I like what you ahve to say on this issue, especially the IN Jesus part. If you pay attention when reading Paul’s letters, that’s really what he was all about. He uses the phrase “In Christ” or some similar construct dozens of times, yet we usually just pass over those to get to the more practical material.

The truth is the more I find myself joined with Christ, the less the issues like intimacy (too much or too little) seem to matter. I’ll admit that I’m more of a touchy feely guy when it comes to worship songs, but I also don’t feel a deep emotional need for those types of songs to be present every time I worship.

Now I certainly don’t have this all figured out, and I am certainly not a model of how we should all worship (I’m still a sinner and still broken) but I think some of the debates over intimacy/masculinity, service/singing, charasmatic/reverent are missing the point.

The real point is to know Jesus, experience Jesus, become one with Jesus and one another as he prayed in John 17. If we start there I think we’ll find our way in the end.

Excellent post. Keep up the good work. :-)

]]> Comment on Chalk daddy by jan http://laeger.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/chalk-daddy/comment-page-1/#comment-252 jan Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:39:58 +0000 http://laeger.wordpress.com/?p=418#comment-252 Just beautiful!! Just beautiful!!

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